Sunday, 8 November 2020

Tamoxifen - Goodova 20 mg

 

Tamoxifene:-

There are two important advantages of Tamoxifen over CC. These are a) No anti-estrogenic effects of CC on genital tract b) No recorded neurological abnormality as is observed very occasionally in CC cycles. Abnormalities of vision, the  rare occurrence depression, grand mal epilepsy and hallucinations are not heard of with TMX.

 

Ae you worried about persistent thin Et , She is young ?? Thin ET ?? Tamoxifene is the solution.

Tamoxifen: - The theoretical advantage of TMX over 1) CC is that it (TMX) does not exhibit any antiestrogenic effect on cervical mucus or endometrium. As such, many specialists use this drug (TMX) in cases of CC failure (sometime in CC resistant too) - where there is a persistent thin endometrium in previous CC cycles.

 

2) As an alternative to Gonadotrophins as a treatment modality of thin ET:-Honestly speaking, TMX, so far my belief goes, is occasionally used where couple can’t afford for gonadotrophins.

 

 Tamoxifen is a SERM. Like Clomiphene this drug too was initially used for breast cancer. Tamoxifene has never been approved till date by any agency for Ovulation induction. (Source: Hum. Reprod 2005; 29:1511).

 

It is claimed that it (TMX) is as effective as CC in ovulation induction. It is initially used as 20 mg OD schedule. After two failed cycles with TMX (if there is no evidence of ovulation) -the dose of Tamoxifene can be increased in a stepwise fashion up to 60mg OD.

It is more probable that endogenous hormones become near normal in pre-induction phase.

If  ET is more than 5 mm, better to induce withdrawal bleeding before ovulation induction.

 

  Late start of TMX-When?? The other alternative option is if on day 3 - ET is > 5 mm. then one can possibly reschedule evaluation of ET after 48 hrs...In some cases, however, on day 4 /5 ET may shrink down to expected 5 mm by waiting for 48 hrs. Therefore, one can possibly gainfully utilize that cycle too by initiating CC/tamoxifen/i.e. on day 5. ET may regress to 5 mm.


Tamoxifene: - The theoretical advantage of TMX over CC is that it (TMX) does not exhibit any antiestrogenic effect on cervical mucus or endometrium. As such, many specialists use this drug (TMX) in cases of CC failure (sometime in CC resistant too) - where there is a persistent thin endometrium in previous CC cycles.

 

 

Tamoxifene has never been approved till date by any agency for Ovulation induction. (Source: Hum. Reprod 2005; 29:1511). It is claimed that it (TMX) is as effective as CC in ovulation induction. It is initially used as 20 mg OD schedule. After two failed cycles with TMX (if there is no evidence of ovulation) -the dose of Tamoxifene can be increased in a stepwise fashion up to 60mg OD. 

 Tamoxifen when? Scope & Indications of Tamoxifen as Ovulogens:-:- In present day the main and possibly the only indication of prescribing TMX is when there are side effects with CC particularly visual /neurological side effects . Scintillating.scotoma.

 Tamoxifen is the second choice in CC resistant cases. Better option will be still  Gonadotrophins. Gonadotrophins are quite effective in CC resistant cases but costly and requires rigorous monitoring. Such facilities may not be available in rural settings. There remains a scope of TMX in selected cases of CC failure/ resistance cases.

 

CC has failed after couple of cycles. Now, what are the practical options open to young women in Indian perspective? Once counselling done after several cycles of failed CC, many Indian couple (even uneducated couple) do realize that gonadotrophin is badly needed for them but repent because they are simply unable to afford for G cycle. Put in such a situation (after CC resistant cases) the option remaining to the treating physician to prescribe TMX (as an alternative to Gonadotrophin) and make some compromise. Doctor feel-“Watch- what happens”-.

 

 Ours is a resource poor country: Not to speak of cost of purchasing Gonadotrophins: Many Indians even cannot afford common low cost fertility tests (PRL,) that usually should precede CC therapy (tests for medical fitness of pregnancy- IgG rubella, hepatitis Viral Screen, TSH, etc). Not to speak of tests prior to initiation of Gonadotrophin—which is the preferred agent most commonly used after CC failure/ Resistance. Not all such tests are done free of cot in Govt/Municipal Hospitals.:--Unfortunately, many Indian couple cannot afford for usual tests at this juncture - so as to why CC failed in their case.

 

 Such tests, if not carried out earlier are 1) AMH .2) AFC, 3) Insulin Resistance, 4) high D2 LH & testosterone 5) DHEASO4, & 6) PRL --not to speak of other costly tests. In such cases further tests so as to find the etiology of CC resistant in particular women. We, Indian doctors have to make many compromises at every step of clinical practice not only in the discipline of reproductive medicine.

 Like CC TMX is also an competitive estrogen Antagonist –TMX ,like CC also competitively block the estrogen binding sites at the level of actuate nucleus of hypothalamus, and stimulate GnRH receptors located at Pit for accentuated release of pit FSH & LH.

 Is there any differential expression of LH over FSH –particularly in CC failure cases? In fact there is about 3-4 fold rise of FSH & LH while someone is on CC.

 

 But the differential expression FSH & LH in the aforesaid two types of oral Ovulogens is still under study. I have a feeling this part of CC /TMX have not been adequately explored. It is hoped by many researcher that CC failure is due possibly to over expression of LH in fair number women and is a major cause of CC failure poor oocyte quality.

 

Those who are biased for TMX they claim such disproportionate rise of LH on cycle days 8-11 is not the case with YMX.

 

But many researcher believe that CC in fair no. of cases more rise of LH during the cycle days of Day 8-Day 10thereby interfering the oocyte quality. Similarly in some cases of CC induced cycle serum E2 remain at supraphysiological levels –explain partly the reasons of failure of CC cycles.

 

 In such women one can use TMX as an iterative if the age of the female partner is< 25 yrs or she cannot afford for gonadotrophin cycle. Some also have claimed that LUF is more than TMX.

 

 

 Why oral Ovulogens in lieu of gonadotrophins in CC resistant/Failure cases??- The advantages of CC/ Tamoxifen are low incidence of multiple gestations, OHSS, low cost, minimal monitoring, .But we are all aware of the fact that whatever agent we use in fair number of subfertile women CC/TMX become resistant despite appropriate dosage e.g. Ov insufficiency, Hyperandrogenism, Insulin resistance, Elderly women and women with BMI> 30 Kg/M2. In such cases one prescribes oral Ovulogens mostly CC but the doctor concerned is sceptical right from the beginning that CC/TMX may not work.

 

 

Miscarriages rate and multiple pregnancy:--Such rates are more or less same with CC and Tamoxifen :- e.g. 10% & ABOUT 22% RESPECTIVELY DEPENDING ON OTHER ASSOCIATED FACTORES LIKE Age of female partner, BMI, ANDROGEN EXCESS DISORDERS, Hyperinsulinemia, serum testosterone etc etc.

 

But for the oral Ovulogens to be effective the D2 serum E2 should be ideally> 50 pg/ml and not less. 

 


Additionally, Women why are contraindicated for CC may also be a given few cycles of TMX RY after due counselling. Such contraindications of CC are impairment of hepatic enzymes.

Tamoxifene:-
There are two important advantages of Tamoxifen over CC. These are

a)              No anti-estrogenic effects of CC on genital tract b) No recorded neurological abnormality as seen very occasionally in CC cycles. Abnormalities of vision, the rare occurrence depression, grand mal epilepsy and hallucinations are not heard of with TMX.
Additionally, researchers working with TMX and CC: - also claim that the very rare threat of Auditory nerve changes in CC induced cycles is nonexistent in TMX cycles.Moreover use of TMX in Ov induction is an “off-level use .

 

 

 

 Additionally, researchers working with TMX and CC: - also claim that the very rare threat of Auditory nerve changes in CC induced cycles is nonexistent in TMX cycles.

·        These are the advantages for choosing TMX over CC. At least such plea has been put forward by different researches in last four decades.  But by convention, globally, (including myself)  CC is most popular agent for Ovulation induction. Moreover use of TMX in Ov induction is an “off-level use “ –as I mentioned at the outset. Tamoxifen (TMX) –Where are we?? What is TMX?? Are we under using Tamoxifen?? There is no fool gynecologist in Te world that will lose time on discussing on TMX, except Prof S Pal of Kolkata-who is a retired man!!! Tamoxifen, as we are all aware that is basically an anticancer drug (breast cancer) but is occasionally used to promote fertility, especially when thin endometrium is becoming a recurrent annoying problem in CC induced cycle. ET as we all knows ideally be 9-10 mm in Ov induction cycles. Mind you dear members, I am not referring desired or optimum ET in IVF cycles.

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·        Tamoxifen-When?? What are the Indications? TMX is usually offered after couple of cycles of CC failures( documented ovulation wit CC i.e. clomiphene but no pregnancy) or CC resistance( no ovulation despite CC of 3-5 cycles more so  in young couple-female  partner is < 25 yrs and trying time is  3 yrs).  Tamoxifen when?  Scope &  Indications of Tamoxifen as ovulogen:-:- In present day the main and possibly the only indication of  prescribing  TMX is when  there are  side effects with CC  particularly  visual /neurological side effects .  Scintillating Scotia are the main contraindications of CC. Though, in such situation both the drugs (CC & TMX) are to be withheld forthwith but  one can  use either agent at a lower dose after a gap of 3-6 cycles couple of months

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·        Point 3:-Well, there are many reasons are there why CC fails to achieve preg despite documented Ovulation. Again coming back to CC –The common reasons why CC fails despite ovulations are 1) Thin ET 2) LUF 3) too much  E2 in peril-ovulatory  phase produced by  more than 3 growing  follicles àspoils te game at endo level or too much E2 induced by CC may lead to  impaired maturation of oocytes   4) Premature LH in CC cycle even in CC  cycles (little discussed by teachers, Admittedly, I must confess that  I was not aware that premature LH surge is a problem even with an  apparently benign drug i.e. CC. his happens due to   surge of sudden production of  E2  synthesized by too many follicles. This LH when acts on Oocyte which is underprepared (not ready for meiotic division). However, we will later discuss in details about dynamics of CC failure and CC resistant in evening hours today as these are common phenomenon and little discussed in Practical MD class. Many a times I was not allowed by the local Internal Examiner not to ask on such tough Questions in MD &  was stopped on many occasions not to ask tees complicated problems while putting a SG plate in Gynae Viva table at DNB/MD examinee.

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·        Point 5:-A tip for young girls /boys. Always keep vermillion pkt at your purse if you want to learn reproductive biology at slaughter house: A tip from Grand-pa.

·        The next issue is where from we collect so many information on human reproduction??  Not from mousse/ rabbits’/  rabbits or  guinea pigs as we commonly come across at our Physiology Pact class or Pramacolgy  Lab. is commonly though. But most of the Informations of human reproduction including details of spermatogenesis at diff stages, what happens at Epididymis, in vas, Seminal vesicles, Prostate etc can be derived killed bulls. So far information’s on Females similarly details of F repro tract are  deveined from nonhuman vertebrates upper class woo mimic more like unman males & unman females including response to gonadotropins endocrines except that tees cow, seep don’t menstruate. I as=all discuss otter 3 animals woo menstruates but nonhumans??  primate  Commonest cause as suggested by Repro endocrinologist and biologists after feeding Cato seeps, Cows and ten collecting ovaries & uteri from slaughter use  offers us many information’s to persons who are performing P D course in genl Sc colleges?  university level, In fact slaughter house is te ans Garden for reproductive biologist, many information’s aver been receive from removed from removed uteri, Cx  virginal canal , Tubes and Ovaries after mating on the previous night with a bull-so that sperms can be traced add effect of CC cane documented in under of cows

·        Once I entered at te age of 24 yrs with my girl friend to collect ovaries from dead cow as my girl friend didn’t have  vermillion mark on her forehead we were refused to enter in a semi-dark room where dead cows were lying and pieces are made. ?!!! Thereafter whenever I visit any place be it Paris or Goa with any girl friend I put vermillion marks an arrival at all resorts. Do you get me??  

·        Point 7:-Why CC fails to achieve preg? Quite often there is persistent antioestrogenic effect at endometrium level resulting into suboptimal growth (should I call it as unreceptive endometrium). Thin ET may range from 4-7 mm which is not uncommon in normal cycles too but more commonly observed in CC cycles thereby preventing cross talk between blastocyst and endometrium. (Unresponsive or hostile endometrium).

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·         Point 8:-This (thin ET is not the only peculiar for CC only but thin Et may be due to many other causes like Kochs, Synechiae Hyperprolactinaemia, numerically poor E2 receptors at endo levels (less population of receptor density). or genetic mutation of E2 receptors at endo levels and many other about  one dozen causes or pleomorposim of genes. All such adverse factors may lead to either in isolation or in combination barrier   to achieve preg despite documented ovulation.

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·         Point 9:-Final success is not achieved in about 40=60% cases with CC alone in India (Hyperinsulinaemic country-many young women with PCO or without PCO have abnormal GTT –with interferes with normal actions or dynamics of CC):: It is presumed that thin ET is the cause of CC failure and   though it is doing the trusted primary job of ovulation but at the cost of poor or adverse effect on ET. Thus goal don’t result in spite of good “dribbling” & “football pass”.  The other causes of failure to achieve preg despite documented ovulation are 1) undiagnosed  / unsuspected Tubal block 2) Good endo  thickness but poor receptivity 4) LUF 6) LPD 7)Transient Hyperprolacunaemia 6) Minimal endometriosis not detected by history or palpation  / Kochs in peritoneum or even at endo/tubes  undiagnosed high  normal DHEASO4 from adrenal androgens etc . I shall will come to these in detail to moor, if I remain alive.

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·        Point 11:- How best to know whether someone is ovulating or not while one is consuming Ovulogens (CC/Letrozole/ Tamoxifen)?? There is a long debate whether to monitor or not to monitor in simple cc induction cases where thousands of Indian women are taking it daily. This also applies to   Letrozole cycles. TMX- i.e. whether to monitor by Foll monitoring which is bothersome & costly for poor couple (daily wage loss & bus expenses).

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·        However, if you ask distinguished ART specialists most of them will answer in favour of “NO MONITORING IN CC or Letroz cycles “--more so if couple is young. But, I have a feeling that the balance is more in more in favour of monitoring as I was personally in favour of monitoring since 1992. .I have trained in that way and I feel guilty if I remain blind what is happening inside te ovaries, Follicle s & endo in particular after taking CC/ letrozole. This is more easy to insist on monitoring if  woman concerned is staying close to our hospital so that I can formulate my  plan in next cycle (say switching over  to MG/ letrozole /Adding E2 orally or suppl E valerate at te  beginning of next cycle   or adding Decadron or Bromocriptine for  first 15 day) . Know many of you may differ with my poilosdopy as many atopic are debatable in Medical Science.

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·        Point 12:-My logic is unless we monitor by F M ten we miss many tings watt is apprehending at Foll level particularly one many follicles are cofirm asynchronous growth of follicles(evidence of hyperinsulinaemia) or poor ET, Fluid in Endo cavity etc.

·        Point 13;-“Three –in-One philosophy “ (many Informations –like Foll growth, ET growth, development of asynchronous follicles—Fluid collections and imaging modality can also forecast  the date of imminent ovulation. Thereby enabling husband to come to home if he is employed a bit away from home town as happens often say 100-20 km away. .

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·        : Point 14:-“Do it yourself principle”:--As we know ovulation can be proved by serum Prog assay on late luteal phase or day 21 of cycle. But as of now in non IVF cycles the choice is more in favour of documentation of ovulation by F M meted:-is “serial monitoring by even 2-D USG by the Gynae herself/ himself) –say on day 3, day 8, and then depending on growing full dia  every 2-3 days after day 8 scan . By and large 4 times scans will suffice to interpret about what is going on at Follicles or at Endo level .One can omit Doppler studies of Peri-follicular or Subendometrial flow studiers (PI, RTI) aim non IVF cycles. Thereby too can do it yourself and eater at no cost or token money for salary of attendant, RT??

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·        Point. 15: Pl do remember ET    is not endometrial Receptivity(receptive or embryo friendly endo):

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·        Point 16:-: To avoid thin ET what can be done in CC cycles”:-Policy 1:-That is why most people for last 3 decades after the advent Foll monitoring by USG has sifted te day of initiation of CC on day 2(instead of day 5 as was the protocol earlier-even up to 1988) with the idea that adverse effect of CC will peas of early by the time Ovulation occurs. But we should remember at the same breath that ET Receptivity of endo is more relevant, so far pregnancy is concerned,  than” USG measured thickness” near fundal level at periovulatory period.. And sadly we are till date can’t a very any easy-to-use lab test to quantify Endometrial Receptivity except ERA which has come in last decade. Policy 2:-Add E2 (orally), Sildenafil ( Viagra / Viagra / Viagra / Penagra)-2 mob TDS & 25 mg (vaginally) TDS. These drugs can be started as soon as lagging of Et is noticed on day 8/day 9 scan but many prefers to suppl such drugs in next cycle from day 3 along with day of initiation of CC .How best to overcome tin Point 17:-ET?? Policy 3: Brest and most accepted policy is to swum over to gonadotropin induction (after excluding Kochs & PRL disorders) &n IUI which offers excellent results in cases with rec thin ET.

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·        Point 18:-Is a problem and concerned doctor considers that CC is causing the entire nuisance at endometrial level,-What is the usual scenario?? By and large gynecologists use Clomiphene citrate as initial choice in cases of subfertity problem. Honestly speaking most of us initiate CC (a common drug) without investigating & confirming that Te concerned women sire; u suffering from anovulatory disorders or oligo ovulatory disorders, Owner, admittedly, many a times in unexplained subfertility cases- CC or letrozole is used knowing full well that the woman is really ovulating. Why then people use CC in an ovulating women?? Why? What is their back of mind”” Reasons thereof??  It has been documented by RCT that by  some beneficial modification(facilatimg effects ) induced by CC as an adjunct work on tissues (  paracrine factors & coenzymes ) promoted better quality of eggs, AS such these facilitating effaces wick are not visible or demonstrable by te Gynae spl can do te magic. As a result oocytes which were so long imperfect or less fertilizable are now become 100% ready, well dressed and ready to meet sperm(not sperms) - so as that CC induced Oocytes are as fresh as fruits from your own garden . These in favourable women, results  in excellent oocytes which are  full of youth with good nucleus, chromatin & full quota of  mitochondria -à synthesis of best possible fertilizable or ova with no possibility of developing  post fertilization errors in  development.

·         Roving tat because of subfertility is anovulation or oligo ovulation. But in all fairness every subfertile women should aver a n evaluation scan Agreed, And if clomiphene becomes resistant (no ovulation despite 150 mg OD 0ten most of us switch over to Letrozole, Went letrozole was banned for about 8 yrs in our country on te plea that Letrozole causes unacceptable rate of cog malformations Govt banned letrozole , however, letrozole fortunately or unfortunately went Letrozole was again reintroduced te people used as Letrozole as first cove, I don’t know wetter ties is appraise or not, but so gear U am concerned I sell initiate letrozole as fist choice only went serum E2 is > 80 pg /ml i=on day 2-3. But honestly speaking own many go so estimate serum E2 bedsore sousing CC or Letroz or say Tamoxifen (TNX) or anastrazole?? Most of us don’t estimate E2 (day 2) and initiate CC (if E2cis< 80 pcg) or letrozole if E2 > 80, ‘

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·        Q.4. CC is not a panacea for anovulation: It may not induce ovulation in as many as 30% cases and in such case you may be challenged by Te couple-“Doc, Why did you offered CC as an initial ovulation inducing agent? Why not some otter agent likes letrozole (as my friend Rubin was prescribed Dr T K) or anastrazole as my friend emu was suggested by Dr AB or say Sumangala who was prescribed Anastrazole as initial dryad?? Who gave you Te authority to waste precious 4 mi=ants of our subfertility?? Tate is no answer for this, We are not simply Gods, neither angel.

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·        Watt is te prevalence of CC resistance cases went pre-induction evaluating by AM, Glycaemic profile, Endocrine profile do not suggest any otter abnormality:  CC resistance is common –as high as 30% PCOS women. As we know Ovulation can be proved by serum Prog assay on late luteal phase or day 21 or the  more  common use of documentation of ovulation is “serial monitoring by 2-D USG by te Gynae herself/ himself) –say on day 3, day 8, and then depending on growing full dia  every 2-3 days. By and large 4v scans will suffice to interpret about what is gang on at Follicles or at RT??

·         used Tamoxifen 20 mg OD from day 2- day 6 many times with results comparable to clomiphene

 Sir can it be used as a first line drug as ultimately we don't want an ovulatory only cycle BUT AIM IS TO HAVE a fertile cycle is needed

Any advantages of tamoxifen over clomiphene?

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I never used this...what is d effect on endometrium?

 

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Theoretically have read about tamoxifen use in cc non responders and apparently almost comparable responses!

 

 

 Not very convincing

 We use it regularly- fine ova 40 mgs once a day from day 3 for 5 days

 Which company is it???

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. Akumentis · 1

 Not approved for induction like letrozole. Comparable with clomiphene if not better.

 

 I have used Tamoxifen.

Response is not equivalent to cc.....but u need to add hmg when using tamoxifen ....endometrium will 9 mm by day five or day six. ... ..Not that great unlike cc..
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 TMX when clomiphene and letrozole failures....seen pt ovulating with good endometrium....only one pt was positive but then this was the last drug to resort after cc n letrozole....theoretically results comparable as in cc....

 Really good results in PCOD patients, use from day4...can do wonders in attaining monofollicular development!!

 Tamoxifen when? Scope & Indications of Tamoxifen as ovulogen:-:- In present day the main and possibly the only indication of prescribing TMX is when there are side effects with CC particularly visual /neurological side effects . Scintillating 

 Gonadotrophins are quite effective in CC resistant cases but costly. CC has failed after couple of cycles. Now, what are the practical options open to young women in Indian perspective? Once counselling done after several cycles of failed CC, many Indian couple (even uneducated couple) does realize that gonadotrophin is badly needed for them but repent because they are simply unable to afford for G cycle. Put in such a situation (after CC resistant cases) the option remaining to the treating physician to prescribe TMX (as an alternative to Gonadotrophin) and make some compromise. Doctor feel-“Watch- what happens”-.

 Not to speak of Gonadotrophins: Many Indians cannot afford further tests so as to why r CC resistance followed:--Unfortunately, many Indian couple cannot afford for usual tests at this juncture - so as to why CC failed in their case. Such tests, if not carried out earlier are 1) AMH .2) AFC, 3) Insulin Resistance, 4) high D2 LH & testosterone 5) DHEASO4, & 6) PRL --not to speak of other costly tests. In such cases further tests so as to find the etiology of CC resistant in particular women. We, Indian doctors have to make many compromises at every step of clinical practice not only in the discipline of reproductive medicine.

 Like CC TMX is also an competitive estrogen Antagonist –TMX ,like CC also competitively block the estrogen binding sites at the level of actuate nucleus of hypothalamus, and stimulate GnRH receptors located at Pit for accentuated release of pit FSH & LH.

 Is there any differential expression of LH over FSH –particularly in CC failure cases?

 

In fact there is about 3-4 fold rise of FSH & LH while someone is on CC.

 

But the differential expression FSH & LH in the aforesaid two types of oral Ovulogens is still under study. I have a feeling this part of CC /TMX have not been adequately explored. It is hoped by many researcher that CC failure is due possibly to over expression of LH in fair number women and is a major cause of CC failure poor oocyte quality.

 

Da those who are biased for TMX they claim such disproportionate rise of LH on cycle days 8-11 is not the case with YMX. I admit that I personally do not know about the differential expression of FSH vs. LH in CC cycles against TMX cycles.

 

 

But many researcher believe that CC in fair no. of cases more rise of LH during the cycle days of Day 8-Day 10thereby interfering the oocyte quality. Similarly in some cases of CC induced cycle serum E2 remain at supraphysiological levels –explain partly the reasons of failure of CC cycles. In such women one can use TMX as an iterative if the age of the female partner is< 25 yrs or she cannot afford for gonadrophin cycle. Some also have claimed that LUF is more than TMX.

Genetic polymorphism of cytochrome P450 2D6 determines oestrogen receptor activity of the major infertility drug clomiphene via its active metabolites

Clomiphene citrate is the most used drug for the treatment of female infertility, a common condition in western societies and developing countries. Despite dose escalation, up to 30% of women do not respond.

 

Since clomiphene shares structural similarities with tamoxifen, which is predominantly bioactivated by the polymorphic cytochrome P450 (CYP) 2D6, we systematically explored clomiphene metabolism and action in vitro and in vivo by pharmacogenetic, -kinetic and -dynamic investigations.

 

 Human liver microsomes were incubated with clomiphene citrate and nine metabolites were identified by mass spectrometry and tested at the oestrogen receptor for their antagonistic capacity. (E)-4-hydroxyclomiphene and (E)-4-hydroxy-N-desethylclomiphene showed strongest inhibition of the oestrogen receptor activity with 50% inhibitory concentrations of 2.5 and 1.4 respectively. CYP2D6 has been identified as the major enzyme involved in their formation using recombinant CYP450 isozymes as confirmed by inhibition experiments with CYP monoclonal antibodies. We correlated the CYP2D6 genotype of 30 human liver donors with the microsomal formation rate of active metabolites and observed a strong gene-dose effect.

 

A healthy female volunteer study confirmed our in vitro data that the CYP2D6 polymorphism substantially determines the formation of the active clomiphene metabolites. Comparison of the Coax of (E)-4-hydroxyclomiphene and (E)-4-hydroxy-N-desethylclomiphene showed 8 and 12 times lower concentrations in subjects with non-functional CYP2D6 alleles. Our results highlight (E)-4-hydroxyclomiphene and (E)-4-hydroxy-N-desethylclomiphene as the active clomiphene metabolites, the formation of which strongly depends on the polymorphic CYP2D6 enzyme. Our data provide first evidence of a biological rationale for the variability in the response to clomiphene treatment.

 

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Tamoxifene

 

Tamoxifen when? Scope & Indications of Tamoxifen as ovulogen:-:- In present day the main and possibly the only indication of prescribing TMX is when there are side effects with CC particularly visual /neurological side effects . Scintillating Scotoma are the main contraindications of CC. Though, in such situation both the drugs (CC & TMX) are to be withheld forthwith but one can use either agent at a lower dose after a gap of 3-6 cycles couple of months.. What is Tamoxifen ??

Tamoxifen  a nonsteroidal  selective estrogen  receptor modulator closely resembles CC .  Like CC TMX occupies  estradiol binding  sites on the  hypothalamic  pituitary axis  and prevents  the negative feedback   effect of estradiol  resulting in increased endogenous gonadotropin secretion. Direct action on the ovary without  involving  hypothalamic pituitary  axis has also  been suggested . The beauty of this product is that unlike clomiphene  tamoxifen acts as an agonist on the estrogen receptors of the endometrium which is beneficial  especially for those suffering  from an adverse response  following the administration of CC. Published literature reported ovulation  rate of 50-90% and pregnancy  rate of 30-50% following TMX  and this is achieved with dose of 20-80 mg.  Women who had thin endometrium with CC exhibited improved  endometrial thickness  when tamoxifen was used for ovulation  induction in the subsequent  cycle. In contrary  to previous literature a recent  RCT significant   lower ovulation rate following TMX  compared to CC in PCOS  women. According to this study CC is more  successful than tamoxifen in PCOS women.

Yes, Tamoxifene  is one of the cheap method for OV induction. The indication is thin Endo after Clomiphene but her age is too less for aggressive tr like gonadotrophins and IUI. So in relatively y young women where  Clomiphene fails or say CC produce side effects like Eye problems in such cases TMX has a role. Dose is 40 mg/ 40mg OD from day 3 to day 7 of cycle.

 

 



Gonadotrophins are quite effective in CC resistant cases but costly . CC has failed after couple of cycles. Now, what are the practical options open to young women in Indian perspective? Once counselling done after several cycles of failed CC, many Indian couple (even uneducated couple) does realize that gonadotrophin is badly needed for them but repent because they are simply unable to afford for G cycle. Put in such a situation (after CC resistant cases) the option remaining to the treating physician to prescribe TMX (as an alternative to Gonadotrophin) and make some compromise. Doctor feel-“Watch- what happens”-.

Not to speak of Gonadotrophins : Many Indians cannot afford further tests so as to why CC resistance has followed: in her case--Unfortunately, many Indian couple cannot afford for usual tests at this juncture - so as to why CC failed in their case. Such tests, if not carried out earlier are 1) AMH .2) AFC, 3) Insulin Resistance, 4) high D2 LH & testosterone 5) DHEASO4, & 6) PRL --not to speak of other costly tests. In such cases further tests so as to find the etiology of CC resistant in particular women. We, Indian doctors have to make many compromises at every step of clinical practice not only in the discipline of reproductive medicine.

Like CC TMX is also an competitive estrogen Antagonist –TMX ,like CC also competitively block the estrogen binding sites at the level of arcuate nucleus of hypothalamus, and stimulate GnRH receptors located at Pit for accentuated release of Pit FSH & LH.



Is there any differential expression of LH over FSH –particularly in CC failure cases? In fact there is about 3-4 fold rise of FSH & LH while someone is on CC. But the differential expression FSH & LH in the aforesaid two types of oral Ovulogens is still under study. I have a feeling this part of CC /TMX have not been adequately explored. It is hoped by many researcher that CC failure is due possibly to over expression of LH in fair number women and is a major cause of CC failure à poor oocyte quality. Those who are biased for TMX they claim such disproportionate rise of LH on cycle days 8-11 is not the case with TMX. I admit that I personally do not know about the differential expression of FSH vs. LH in CC cycles against TMX cycles. But many researcher believe that CC in fair no. of cases more rise of LH during the cycle days of Day 8-Day 10 thereby interfering the oocyte quality. Similarly in some cases of CC induced cycle serum E2 remain at supraphysiological levels –explain partly the reasons of failure of CC cycles. In such women one can use TMX as an iterative if the age of the female partner is< 25 yrs or she cannot afford for gonadotrophin cycle. Some also have claimed that LUF is more than TMX.



Miscarriages rate and multiple preg rates are more or less same with CC and Tamoxifen :- e.g. 10% & ABOUT 22% respectively depending on other associated factors like age of female partner, BMI, androgen excess disorders, Hyperinsulinaemia, serum testosterone etc. But for the oral Ovulogens to be effective the D2 serum E2 should be ideally> 50 pg/ml and not less. Additionally, Women who are contraindicated for CC may also be prescribed few cycles of TMX RY after due counselling. Such contraindications of CC are 1) impairment of hepatic enzymes 2) Eye changes after CC .

Why oral Ovulogens in lieu of gonadotrophins:- The advantages of CC/ Tamoxifen are low incidence of multiple gestations, OHSS, low cost, minimal monitoring, .But we are all aware of the fact that whatever agent we use in fair number of subfertile women CC/TMX become resistant despite appropriate dosage e.g Ov insufficiency, Hyperandrogenism, Insulin resistance ,Elderly women and women with BMI> 30 Kg/M2. In such cases one prescribes oral Ovulogens mostly CC but the doctor concerned is skeptical right from the beginning that CC/TMX may not work.

What to do in CC resistant cases? The causes are Treatment:- one can 50 mg of IM progesterone daily in late luteal phase to suppress LH & FSH levels. But usually gonadotrophins is the usual protocol.

Carry home message: Those who are biased for TMX they claim that CC ingestion cause preferential expression of LH mote than FSH from Pit so there is anovulation with CC . But such disproportionate rise of LH on cycle days 8-11 is not the case with TMX

 

Quad Scan

 

The quad screen — also known as the quadruple marker test, the second trimester screen is a prenatal test that measures levels of four substances in pregnant women's blood:

·        Alpha-fetoprotein (AFP), a protein made by the developing baby

·        Human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG), a hormone made by the placenta

·        Estriol, a hormone made by the placenta and the baby's liver

·        Inhibin A, another hormone made by the placenta

Ideally, the quad screen is done between weeks 15 and 18 of pregnancy — during the second trimester. However, the procedure can be done up to week 22.

The quad screen is used to evaluate whether the indexed pregnancy has an increased chance of being affected with certain conditions, such as Down syndrome or neural tube defects.

 If risk is low, the quad screen can offer reassurance that there is a decreased chance for Down syndrome, trisomy 18, neural tube defects and abdominal wall defects.

If the quad screen indicates an increased chance of one of these conditions, she  might be advised  additional screening or testing.

Why it's done

The quad screen evaluates chance of carrying a foetus that has any of the following conditions:

·        Down syndrome (trisomy 21). Down syndrome is a chromosomal disorder that causes lifelong intellectual disability and developmental delays and, in some people, health problems.

·        Trisomy 18. This is a chromosomal disorder that causes severe developmental delays and abnormalities in the structure of the body. Trisomy 18 is often fatal by age 1 year .

·        Spina bifida. Spina bifida is a birth defect that occurs when a portion of the neural tube fails to develop or close properly, causing defects in the spinal cord and in the bones of the spine.

·        Abdominal wall defects. In these birth defects, the baby's intestines or other abdominal organs stick through the belly button.

The quad screen has traditionally been one of the most commonly used screenings in the second trimester. It was generally used if prenatal care began during the second trimester or if first trimester screening, which involves a blood test and an ultrasound exam, wasn't available. Physician might combine the results of first trimester screening with the quad screen to improve the detection rate of Down syndrome.

Prenatal cell-free DNA screening is another screening method that doctor might recommend in place of quad screening.

A negative quad screen doesn't guarantee that the baby won't have a) chromosomal abnormality, B) single-gene disorder or C) certain birth defects. If screening test is positive,  physician will  recommend additional testing to make a diagnosis.

Caveat :-What we achieve by all these 5 test 1) Cell Free Foetal DNA (cffDNA) 2) D marker  3) NT Scan 4) Quadruple marker 5) TIFA .

Before the commencement of screening, doctor  should counsel the couple about what the results mean to her . Doctor should also consider whether the screening will be worth any anxiety it might cause, or whether doctor will handle her differently depending on the results. The concerned woman must be made aware for  confirmation of chromosomal abnormalities an invasive test is essential  might also consider what level of risk would be enough for  her to choose a more invasive follow-up test. The results are put in a software nd results are expressed in terms of probability 

The quad screen is a routine prenatal screening test. The test poses no risk of miscarriage or other pregnancy complications. As with other prenatal screening tests, however, the quad screen can cause anxiety about the possible test results and what they might mean for her foetus. How to counsel??  Before the test, health care provider might ask the couple to meet with a genetic counselor in cases of more than few pregancy losses

The quad screen measures levels of alpha-fetoprotein (AFP), human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG), estriol and inhibin A in pregnant women's blood. Benefits this Q serum tests will strengthen the suspicion of certain A) chromosomal conditions, B) neural tube defects or C) abdominal wall defects.

Quad screen results give the level of risk of carrying a foetus who has certain conditions compared with the general population's risk.

We and ANC women in general should keep in mind that a positive quad screen simply means that levels of some or all of the substances measured in her blood were outside the normal range.

 

Quad scan,  like Double marker serum markers has also statistical evaluation range and Apps (applications) so that possibility of chromosomal markers are calculated.   What are the factors that can affect the substances measured by a quad screen include: The results are put in a software and results are expressed in terms of probability 

·        A miscalculation of how long she  been pregnant

·        Maternal race

·        Maternal weight

·        Carrying more than one baby during a pregnancy

·        Diabetes

·        In vitro fertilization

·        Smoking during pregnancy

Some centers performs USG with take additional charges to have accurate gest age and no of fetuses she has inside so that exact probability can be established with near accurate, If her test results are positive, doctor  might compare previous screening reports like D marker(11-13.6 weeks) & NT scan reports and finally may opt for amniocentesis . The quad screen correctly identifies about 80 percent of women who are carrying a foetus who has Down syndrome. About 5 percent of women have a false-positive result. The results are put in a software and results are expressed in terms of probability 

Limitations of all screening tests:--When one  consider that his pts test results are abnormal ( remember that the quad screen only indicates her overall chance of carrying a foetus) who has certain chromosomal conditions, neural tube defects or abdominal wall defects. A decreased chance (negative screen result) doesn't guarantee that her foetus won't have one of these conditions. Likewise, an increased chance (positive screen result) doesn't guarantee that her foetus  will be born with one of these conditions.

Often, positive screen results might cause one to consider other testing, such as:

·   Prenatal cell-free DNA screening. This sophisticated blood test examines cell-free DNA from the placenta and the fetus in the mother's bloodstream. It evaluates whether her foetus is at risk of Down syndrome, extra sequences of chromosome 13 (trisomy 13), extra sequences of chromosome 18 (trisomy 18) or a sex chromosome abnormality, such as Turner syndrome. A normal result might eliminate the need for an invasive prenatal diagnostic test.

·   Targeted ultrasound. If there is  high risk of a neural tube defect, doctor  might suggest this test but by and large this TIFA (anomaly scan) has now become universal but ultrasound isn't an effective screening tool for Down syndrome.

·   Chorionic villus sampling (CVS). This procedure can be used to diagnose chromosomal conditions, such as Down syndrome. During CVS, a sample of tissue from the placenta is removed for testing. CVS poses a slight risk of miscarriage and isn't useful in detecting neural tube defects, such as spina bifida.

·   Amniocentesis. Amniocentesis can be used to diagnose both chromosomal conditions and neural tube defects. During amniocentesis, a sample of amniotic fluid is removed from the uterus for testing. Like CVS, amniocentesis poses a slight risk of miscarriage.

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