Causes of
Failed Repeated IUI- What should be the combinations of CC & IUI in IUI
cycles??
A)In PCO mode of
stimulation will be either CC or FSH:-- max
dose of clomiphene :: in the
era of gonadotrophins ,? Ans:- how much max dose of clomiphene one
should give before switching over to
injectable (in not ART pts )
One can go upto 150 mg and find it extremely useful to try
this dose before resorting to gonadotropins. What about Gonadotrophins in IUI for PCO:- If
one at all switches over to gonadotrophins for pcos maximum
cost effective dose will be 75 i.u daily and never to exceed that :-Red flag
:-warning more than that will cause
ohss.
B) If one is using for unexplained or mild male factor or mild endometriosis: No CC, no letrozole: use Gonadotrophins only if one is planning for IUI, to promote multi follicular development to improvise IUI results.
B) If one is using for unexplained or mild male factor or mild endometriosis: No CC, no letrozole: use Gonadotrophins only if one is planning for IUI, to promote multi follicular development to improvise IUI results.
Why not gonadotrophins in PCO initially :- As per the
expert opinion published in Fert Ster the only indications of using
gonadotropin in non-IVF stimulation are
1) hypo hypo type 1 anovulation
2) cc resistant pcos.
3) Premature ovarian failure
4) Hypothyroidism
5) Hyperprolactinemia
1) hypo hypo type 1 anovulation
2) cc resistant pcos.
3) Premature ovarian failure
4) Hypothyroidism
5) Hyperprolactinemia
CC & Gonadotrophins.-Different schedules.
Schedule 1
:-In this scenario 75 IU daily
or 150 on alternate day should suffice
adjutant to CC
Many start 75 u alt days from day 3 ??
Schedule 2:- One can give
cc 100 to max 150mg daily D3 to D7. call
her on D8 .if no follicle on either side
is nearer to 9mm, then and then only one should Supplemt HMG-150 on alternate
day for two doses and depending on response making it daily or
reduce frequency in same cycle and also
in next cycle.
Schedule 3:-If one is in a mind to add only one dose of Gonadotrophin that may be used on D9 in CC cycle.
Schedule 4:-If one is accustomed to supplement hMG with CC then preferable is to add two doses give on D6 and D8
Schedule 5 :-There is another way of supplement i.e to give daily or alternate day start from D6 or D8
Another interesting way of using gonadotropins
Schedule 7 :-Start gonadotrophins for 5 days D2,3,4,5,6. Add CC 50mg 8hourly from day 6 till trigger. Reason :-This will take care of thin endometrium as well LH surge. Explanations of late initiation of CC :-
Schedule 3:-If one is in a mind to add only one dose of Gonadotrophin that may be used on D9 in CC cycle.
Schedule 4:-If one is accustomed to supplement hMG with CC then preferable is to add two doses give on D6 and D8
Schedule 5 :-There is another way of supplement i.e to give daily or alternate day start from D6 or D8
Another interesting way of using gonadotropins
Schedule 7 :-Start gonadotrophins for 5 days D2,3,4,5,6. Add CC 50mg 8hourly from day 6 till trigger. Reason :-This will take care of thin endometrium as well LH surge. Explanations of late initiation of CC :-
Gonadotropin induced
folliculogenesis at the beginning of cycle à
and resultant estrogen level takes care of adverse effect of cc on endometrium.
At any given starting day of CC in early follicular phase it blocked E-2 receptor at pituitary and hypothalamic level and blocks positive feed back. In latest minimal Stimulation Protocols this action of CC is being exploited to stop the LH surge.
At any given starting day of CC in early follicular phase it blocked E-2 receptor at pituitary and hypothalamic level and blocks positive feed back. In latest minimal Stimulation Protocols this action of CC is being exploited to stop the LH surge.
Many of us don’t
use trigger in cc cycle if used for anovulatory women for ovulation induction. If
in such women, the follicle size reaches a mature size before the '5 day wash
off period of CC . Would you recommend that HCG is necessarily given in this
subset of women?
With CC one
should wait & sincerely try to pull till D14 or 23mm
sized follicle whichever comes earlier before giving trigger
if no spontaneous ovulation. It will be fair to start doing
urinary Lh after 5 days of last tab of cc daily
For AI( Aromatase Inhibitors):-One should start doing urinary Lh once lead follicle reaches 14 mm.
For AI( Aromatase Inhibitors):-One should start doing urinary Lh once lead follicle reaches 14 mm.
Details of
Schedule 5:- Gonadotrophin initially
and late CC 8 hourly :: plus late CC:-To Start for Gonadotrophin
for 5 days like D2,3,4,5,6
Add CC 50mg 8hourly from day 6 till trigger Scheduled
Add CC 50mg 8hourly from day 6 till trigger Scheduled
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